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Post by Douglass on Nov 29, 2008 19:41:25 GMT -8
www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=21575473-d987-4d5c-a92a-db6644c5de39WASHINGTON -- There is a second transition under way over which President-elect Barack Obama has no control--the transition of conservatives to minority status. How they do this will have a powerful impact on the new presidency. If you doubt that, ask Bill Clinton. Clinton was elected in 1992 with only 43 percent of the vote while Republicans gained seats in the House. The right felt empowered to treat Clinton as a not fully legitimate minority president and moved into unrelenting opposition. Republicans took over Congress in 1994 and pushed the logic of their hostility to impeachment in 1998. Click the link above to read the rest of the article. I think this is more of a central site but this article caught my attention
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Post by hatboromike on Dec 15, 2008 10:43:31 GMT -8
Didin't read the article. But IMO it's much, much more important how the Republican Party recovers from its outright rejection by the electorate.
I recall Dave's manifesto right after the election, where he addressed where the GOP goes from here. (May have been "conservatism" as opposed to the GOP itself. I can't recall exactly.)
In any case, IMHO the GOP has to regenerate as a more centrist influence than it has the past 10-12 years.
You can't win and maintain success for long as extremist in either direction ... left or right. You leave the middle, where most undecideds, especially in blue states, reside. You lose the middle you have no chance.
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Post by Dave on Dec 30, 2008 14:10:46 GMT -8
Didin't read the article. But IMO it's much, much more important how the Republican Party recovers from its outright rejection by the electorate. I recall Dave's manifesto right after the election, where he addressed where the GOP goes from here. (May have been "conservatism" as opposed to the GOP itself. I can't recall exactly.) In any case, IMHO the GOP has to regenerate as a more centrist influence than it has the past 10-12 years. You can't win and maintain success for long as extremist in either direction ... left or right. You leave the middle, where most undecideds, especially in blue states, reside. You lose the middle you have no chance. What the GOP has to do is convince the center that they can do better in providing lower taxes, school choice, and national security. Those are conservative values that are shared with the center. Trouble is, is that the center may not trust the GOP to deliver. The GOP started losing people when at the national level, they were competing for the illegal alien vote. |
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Post by floyd on Jan 1, 2009 1:09:30 GMT -8
Didin't read the article. But IMO it's much, much more important how the Republican Party recovers from its outright rejection by the electorate. I recall Dave's manifesto right after the election, where he addressed where the GOP goes from here. (May have been "conservatism" as opposed to the GOP itself. I can't recall exactly.) In any case, IMHO the GOP has to regenerate as a more centrist influence than it has the past 10-12 years. You can't win and maintain success for long as extremist in either direction ... left or right. You leave the middle, where most undecideds, especially in blue states, reside. You lose the middle you have no chance. What the GOP has to do is convince the center that they can do better in providing lower taxes, school choice, and national security. Those are conservative values that are shared with the center. Trouble is, is that the center may not trust the GOP to deliver. The GOP started losing people when at the national level, they were competing for the illegal alien vote. Problem is we had a Republican president that tried to be all things to all people! To hell with COnservative values! |
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Post by The Ghost on Jan 3, 2009 20:16:46 GMT -8
You guys could start by quitting lying. The electorate started to see through your election year pandering to issues you ignore in non-election years.
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Post by Dreamweaver on Jan 5, 2009 18:00:54 GMT -8
As stated in 1964 "A choice, Not an Echo" Screw the middle, McCain went to the middle and lost,
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Post by seeingeyelobster on Jan 6, 2009 18:12:06 GMT -8
As stated in 1964 "A choice, Not an Echo" Screw the middle, McCain went to the middle and lost, But when McCain went to the right by choosing Palin as his VP, the voters went to Obama in droves, feeling that he was the more centrist candidate. What Republican candidate do you think would have had a chance against Obama in the general election? |
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Post by Dreamweaver on Jan 6, 2009 19:37:59 GMT -8
Ok Newt Gingrich would have been my choice, I could have lived with Ron Paul, In reality a lot of people were happy with Palin, until tew MSM went on the attack, and as for the messiah, he went to the center, becaue that what all Dems do that are running for Pres. In 14 day we will see what kind of centerist he is, I hope he is, but I don't believe it on bit.
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