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Post by hank on Dec 31, 2008 13:51:16 GMT -8
Because if 50% of the posts here are just to vilify me, I have a responsibility to defend myself. fair enough ... Who's looking out for those of us banned from your board?? Believe me, nobody is talking about you. And if they were, I'm sure some or all of your still-unbanned croonies would let you know if they were.
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Post by floyd on Dec 31, 2008 13:52:22 GMT -8
I'll concede to that. But it's just more fun to have people guess my identity. And that makes you less childish?? I am betting nc/4
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Post by blackjohnflint on Dec 31, 2008 13:54:44 GMT -8
Seems like you're now encroaching on "our place". You have the control there. Why not stay there? Because if 50% of the posts here are just to vilify me, I have a responsibility to defend myself. Perhaps, but as you know, he who owns the board makes the rules.
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Post by Lurker on Dec 31, 2008 14:02:25 GMT -8
fair enough ... Who's looking out for those of us banned from your board?? Believe me, nobody is talking about you. And if they were, I'm sure some or all of your still-unbanned croonies would let you know if they were. In all fairness, there are voices who would speak out but are afraid of the retribution in a hobby they've spent a lot of time and money and energy pursuing. I have a lot of respect and admiration for the main WG? site. Its amazing. However, I've been nothing but shocked and appalled that SOME people can't speak their mind freely on the Forum boards. Any top of the food chain person, no matter their actions, will cause dissent in the masses. Squashing that dissent, chilling speech, may be your right, but that doesn't make it right. I never understood why the people who were whining about the PF weren't simply told "Then don't go there. Don't complain to me, or you get banned yourself." Self selecting by paying money? How about self selecting by not entering a thread/forum if you can't take the heat. The Lurker, here and there.
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Post by amyinpa on Dec 31, 2008 14:07:10 GMT -8
Seems like you're now encroaching on "our place". You have the control there. Why not stay there? Because if 50% of the posts here are just to vilify me, I have a responsibility to defend myself. Why didn't you didn't want to do it over there? I think you were asked about seven times to post a do and do-not list so we would know what was allowed and what was not allowed. You didn't have time for that over there, so how do you have time to be here?
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Post by blackjohnflint on Dec 31, 2008 14:07:11 GMT -8
And that makes you less childish?? I am betting nc/4 I'm thinking that she lives a whole lot closer to you and Tim.
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Post by floyd on Dec 31, 2008 14:17:32 GMT -8
[I never understood why the people who were whining about the PF weren't simply told "Then don't go there. Don't complain to me, or you get banned yourself." Self selecting by paying money? How about self selecting by not entering a thread/forum if you can't take the heat. The Lurker, here and there. You are so right ... that is what I would have done .... be gone whiner! But that was not the agenda!
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Post by hank on Dec 31, 2008 14:25:51 GMT -8
Because if 50% of the posts here are just to vilify me, I have a responsibility to defend myself. Why didn't you didn't want to do it over there? I think you were asked about seven times to post a do and do-not list so we would know what was allowed and what was not allowed. You didn't have time for that over there, so how do you have time to be here? Perhaps I'm deluded... over there, everytime I posted something to defend myself, no matter how valid or truthful, all I got was right-winged, closed-minded conspiracy theories and nuts thrown back at me. Maybe over here, you'll actually listen to me. Like I said, perhaps I'm deluded. Time will tell. edit: apparently the common "S" word for scat is replaced with "nuts". darn profanity filter!
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Post by amyinpa on Dec 31, 2008 14:27:01 GMT -8
Ok...why no sticky at the top with the up to date rules?
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Post by hank on Dec 31, 2008 14:32:14 GMT -8
Ok...why no sticky at the top with the up to date rules? Because I've learned in the PF that no matter what "rules" I post, people will either (A) argue about the tiniest minutia over the exact wording of the rules instead of the actual spirit of the rules, or (B) just find ways around the rules as written and find ways to break them without really breaking them.. so what's the point?
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Post by amyinpa on Dec 31, 2008 14:40:57 GMT -8
I think you listened to the whiners too much. I'm not sure why your attitude towards some people was to ignore our questions or say, "that's the way it is, take it or leave it" and when other people whined, you cracked the whip.
Was it SO bad? I have NEVER gotten into politics on the $12 forum and J.O.N. and I reply to each other like friendly neighbors there. Wasn't that the whole idea....to keep the political disagreements in one forum?
I kept my end of that.
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Post by floyd on Dec 31, 2008 14:49:18 GMT -8
I think you listened to the whiners too much. I'm not sure why your attitude towards some people was to ignore our questions or say, "that's the way it is, take it or leave it" and when other people whined, you cracked the whip. Whiners should be ignored! No clue why Hank gave them the time of day!
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Post by hank on Dec 31, 2008 14:59:45 GMT -8
What's SO bad is that the tone and vitriol in the forum got so bad EVERYWHERE, no matter who was posting what (from BOTH sides), that even when I merely tried to present a suggestion to help fix the forum, and asked for everyones' input, all I got was s-h1t on. It was never my intention to close the forum and ban people, but after that beating, I really had no other option. Like I said before, if my objective was to remove all right-winged posts and threads from the forum, I could have simply just deleted them all with a few clicks. I have never ONCE deleted any thread or post that I personally disagreed with. But for whatever reason, nobody can see the logic, and bash me with other "theories" instead. And if you go back and look (well, when you're unbanned), I didn't ban just the "Righties", I banned everyone who was slamming me for no reason.... which just happened to be the righties because THEY disagreed with ME, not because I disagreed with THEM. Big difference. If there were lefties giving me s-h1t in that thread, they would have been banned as well.
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Post by dib on Dec 31, 2008 15:10:11 GMT -8
I am betting nc/4 - posted by Floyd
Quite possibly Floyd. After all, we're merely opinionated and nc/4 is smart. It would be easy to fool us of course, poor lame righties who never had an original thought. Her siggy in case anyone has forgotten:
NPR - because 'smart' is always better than 'opinionated'..
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Post by Douglass on Dec 31, 2008 15:56:57 GMT -8
I'm thinking that she lives a whole lot closer to you and Tim. Unless N4 moved to the east coast then no
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